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    Hope together we'll fix all our bugs.
    As co founder of this topic have to share with my fisrt writing example:
    On the given graph, we see two lines, which describes a smoking of men and women, in the period from 1960 to 2000 years. For this graph was used a 1000 peoples and from them selected smoking persons.
    This graph shows that smoking men at 1960 prevailed over not smoking men on almost 40%. At the same time smoking women was in minority – less than 10% of all tested women.
    From the period of 1960 to 1965 quantity of smoked women rose up to 10% and reached the amount of 200 smoked women on 1000 responders. At this period, the party of smoked men slowly but certain falls down and to 1970’s lost about 50 members or in relatively numbers 5%.
    After 1970’s women shows rapidly increasing of smoking – at this period number of smoking women rose up to 300.
    In a border of 1975’s amount of smoking women stop rising, stabilize on a point of little bit more than 300 smoking females up to 1980’s and then permanently falls down up to 2000.
    From 1960 to 1985 number of smoking men not rapidly changed, and reached the point of 400 men. From 1990 men sharply stop smoking and amount of smoking men and women almost compared to 2000.
    Therefore, this graph shows us that smoking summarily men and women progressively decreasing.
    Any comments are welcome.
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    Re: God bless you, Fil.

    to start with
    Сообщение от Abor Mot
    On the given graph, we see two lines which describes (why the third person singular?) a smoking (the process of smoking or the ratio) of men and women in the period from 1960 to 2000 years. For this graph was used a 1000 peoples and from them selected smoking persons (mind the word order! Subject should come first).
    This graph shows that (the number of) smoking men at 1960 (I’d rather place the date before the subject) prevailed over not smoking men on almost 40%. At the same time smoking women was in minority – less than 10% of all tested women.
    From the period of 1960 to 1965 the quantity of smoked women rose up to 10% and reached the amount of 200 smoked (who has dared to smoke a woman? =)) women on 1000 responders (maybe respondents?). At this period, the party (hmmm) of smoked ( ) men slowly but certain (steadily?) falls (if you start with the past tense what is the purpose in switching to the present indefinite?) down and to 1970’s (why apostrophe?) lost about 50 members or in relatively numbers 5% (I can’t say that I’ve got the idea).
    After 1970’s (the same) women shows rapidly increasing (increase/growth) of smoking (hmm – confusing – it’s better to reformulate the sentence) – at this period the number of smoking women rose up to 300.
    In a border of 1975’s (which border?) the amount of smoking women stop (???) rising, stabilize (????) on (at) a point of little bit more (very precise =) ) than 300 smoking females up to 1980’s (it’s better to put the adverbial modifier near the verb it refers to) and then permanently (constantly – if it’s permanent how can it be that it is falling?) falls down up to 2000.
    From 1960 to 1985 the number of smoking men not rapidly changed (you’ve missed the auxiliary verb), and reached the point of 400. From 1990 men sharply (??? you mean all of a sudden?) stop (present tense?) smoking and the amount (number) of smoking men and women (‘is’ is missed if you’ve meant the passive construction) almost compared to 2000.
    Therefore, this graph shows us that smoking summarily (why have you put it here?) the (why ‘the’?) men and women progressively decreasing.
    mind your tenses, articles, commas and word order

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    • #3
      А зачем вам Academic IELTS? Это же задание академик райтинга, которое вам совершенно не нужно, для эмиграции надо сдать general training only, в котором совсем другого типа задание, письмо, а не описание графиков. Или вам для ассесмента нужен именно Academic?

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      • #4
        Re: God bless you, Fil.

        Сообщение от Abor Mot
        On the given graph, we see two lines, which describes a smoking of men and women, in the period from 1960 to 2000 years. For this graph was used a 1000 peoples and from them selected smoking persons.
        I've imagined how somebody used a thousand people for the graph. It was horrible.
        My version:
        There was used information from (about) a thousand people who had answered a question: "Do you smoke?"
        Сообщение от Abor Mot
        From the period of 1960 to 1965 quantity of smoked women rose up to
        Why from? From 1960 to 1965 or In the period from 1960 to 1965
        С уважением
        Андрей Прохоров

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        • #5
          Сообщение от lightik
          А зачем вам Academic IELTS? Это же задание академик райтинга, которое вам совершенно не нужно, для эмиграции надо сдать general training only, в котором совсем другого типа задание, письмо, а не описание графиков. Или вам для ассесмента нужен именно Academic?
          Ups! I promise to fix. Of couse, I need a general assessment. Tnx.
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          • #6
            Re: God bless you, Fil.

            Сообщение от Andrey Prokhorov
            Сообщение от Abor Mot
            On the given graph, we see two lines, which describes a smoking of men and women, in the period from 1960 to 2000 years. For this graph was used a 1000 peoples and from them selected smoking persons.
            I've imagined how somebody used a thousand people for the graph. It was horrible.
            My version:
            There was used information from (about) a thousand people who had answered a question: "Do you smoke?"
            Сообщение от Abor Mot
            From the period of 1960 to 1965 quantity of smoked women rose up to
            Why from? From 1960 to 1965 or In the period from 1960 to 1965
            I taped this block in a word processor, sometime it underline my sentences, and offer to change couple of words with only one synonym. Not in this case of couse. Is it incorrect to write "From <the date> to <the date>?
            You right "using 1000 for graph" sounds little bit stupid. I found better variant: "A 1000 men an women were interviewed a question about smoking". Is this version is better?
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            • #7
              Re: God bless you, Fil.

              Сообщение от masha
              to start with
              Сообщение от Abor Mot
              On the given graph, we see two lines which describes (why the third person singular?) a smoking (the process of smoking or the ratio) of men and women in the period from 1960 to 2000 years. For this graph was used a 1000 peoples and from them selected smoking persons (mind the word order! Subject should come first).
              This graph shows that (the number of) smoking men at 1960 (I’d rather place the date before the subject) prevailed over not smoking men on almost 40%. At the same time smoking women was in minority – less than 10% of all tested women.
              From the period of 1960 to 1965 the quantity of smoked women rose up to 10% and reached the amount of 200 smoked (who has dared to smoke a woman? =)) women on 1000 responders (maybe respondents?). At this period, the party (hmmm) of smoked ( ) men slowly but certain (steadily?) falls (if you start with the past tense what is the purpose in switching to the present indefinite?) down and to 1970’s (why apostrophe?) lost about 50 members or in relatively numbers 5% (I can’t say that I’ve got the idea).
              After 1970’s (the same) women shows rapidly increasing (increase/growth) of smoking (hmm – confusing – it’s better to reformulate the sentence) – at this period the number of smoking women rose up to 300.
              In a border of 1975’s (which border?) the amount of smoking women stop (???) rising, stabilize (????) on (at) a point of little bit more (very precise =) ) than 300 smoking females up to 1980’s (it’s better to put the adverbial modifier near the verb it refers to) and then permanently (constantly – if it’s permanent how can it be that it is falling?) falls down up to 2000.
              From 1960 to 1985 the number of smoking men not rapidly changed (you’ve missed the auxiliary verb), and reached the point of 400. From 1990 men sharply (??? you mean all of a sudden?) stop (present tense?) smoking and the amount (number) of smoking men and women (‘is’ is missed if you’ve meant the passive construction) almost compared to 2000.
              Therefore, this graph shows us that smoking summarily (why have you put it here?) the (why ‘the’?) men and women progressively decreasing.
              mind your tenses, articles, commas and word order
              Looks like if I tested today, I've got 2 points for this test. Pity.
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              • #8
                Re: God bless you, Fil.

                Сообщение от Abor Mot
                Is this version is better?
                RTFM?
                Sandals with socks? - The answer is in the statement. Read it again. And again. Understand now?

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                • #9
                  Re: God bless you, Fil.

                  Сообщение от Kashmir
                  Сообщение от Abor Mot
                  Is this version is better?
                  RTFM?
                  What does the RTFM mean?
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                  • #10
                    Re: God bless you, Fil.

                    Сообщение от Abor Mot
                    Сообщение от Kashmir
                    Сообщение от Abor Mot
                    Is this version is better?
                    RTFM?
                    What does the RTFM mean?
                    Hmm... ОК: "Read a grammar book, please!"
                    Sandals with socks? - The answer is in the statement. Read it again. And again. Understand now?

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                    • #11
                      Re: God bless you, Fil.

                      Сообщение от Kashmir
                      Сообщение от Abor Mot
                      Сообщение от Kashmir
                      Сообщение от Abor Mot
                      Is this version is better?
                      RTFM?
                      What does the RTFM mean?
                      Hmm... ОК: "Read a grammar book, please!"
                      I got it! RTFM - Read the Flaming Manual. But I never had any english book... Guess I have to visit a book store.... That is very strange, I can think english, I can speak, but can't build grammatically right expression.... Guess my english sounds like chinese english What I have to do?
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                      • #12
                        Re: God bless you, Fil.

                        Сообщение от Abor Mot
                        .... Guess my english sounds like chinese english What I have to do?
                        Apply to Chinese England!
                        Sandals with socks? - The answer is in the statement. Read it again. And again. Understand now?

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                        • #13
                          Re: God bless you, Fil.

                          Сообщение от Kashmir
                          Сообщение от Abor Mot
                          .... Guess my english sounds like chinese english What I have to do?
                          Apply to Chinese England!
                          Nop, I just downloaded english grammar book. Now gonna sharpen "chinese eng" to "english eng". Pal, where on the map located Chinese England? You know, do not smoke, whatever you smoking in there...
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                          • #14
                            Re: God bless you, Fil.

                            Abor Mot - don't be discouraged
                            try Artem's treasury at http://sandheap.profiland.com - a lot of excellent books, including grammar ones

                            ps if you have never come across any English book what is your method of studying language?

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                            • #15
                              Re: God bless you, Fil.

                              Сообщение от masha
                              Abor Mot - don't be discouraged
                              try Artem's treasury at http://sandheap.profiland.com - a lot of excellent books, including grammar ones

                              ps if you have never come across any English book what is your method of studying language?
                              Thanks for link, will check it later. I have not any method of studying language. all I have is just listening natives recorded on my mp3 player, trying to understand songs, reading news coming to my laptop, that's all I think. Nothing more. I'm not discouraged - ain't a big deal, just a matter of theory studying....
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