а программисты могут иммигрировать ?

[Test]

собственно сабж.
не нахожу программистов в 1121i

в 1121i есть Application and Analyst Programmer 2231-17
или Computing Professionals (not elsewhere classified) 2231-79

это подойдет если я простой программист?

[Mega]

Re: а программисты могут иммигрировать ?

собственно сабж.
не нахожу программистов в 1121i

в 1121i есть Application and Analyst Programmer 2231-17
или Computing Professionals (not elsewhere classified) 2231-79

это подойдет если я простой программист?

Хмм... А что такое "простой программист"?!

[lightik]

Re: а программисты могут иммигрировать ?

собственно сабж.
не нахожу программистов в 1121i

в 1121i есть Application and Analyst Programmer 2231-17
или Computing Professionals (not elsewhere classified) 2231-79

это подойдет если я простой программист?

Хмм... А что такое "простой программист"?!

Наверное Simple NonProfessional Programmer

[Test]

Re: а программисты могут иммигрировать ?

собственно сабж.
не нахожу программистов в 1121i

в 1121i есть Application and Analyst Programmer 2231-17
или Computing Professionals (not elsewhere classified) 2231-79

это подойдет если я простой программист?

Хмм... А что такое "простой программист"?!

Это значит что в дипломе написано "Программист", работаю программистом, а не аналитиком и не системным программистом.

Ау, программисты! Ответьте!

Re: а программисты могут иммигрировать ?

Ау, программисты! Ответьте!

Я "простой" программист.
Отвечаю

Подтвердилась как Application and Analyst Programmer 2231-17

Почитала на сайте ACS какие примерно работы должен выполнять тот или иной IT-шник, и решила что мне подходит 2231-17

мои доки на ассессмент, как и доки некоторых других ножно посмотреть в песочнице
Артема.

[lightik]

Какой вы программист, простой или не простой, зависит от набора выполняемых задач. А не от того, как вы или ваш начальник вас назвал. Или как записано в трудовой, в дипломе и еще где угодно.

Если хотите точного ответа, скажите, чем вы занимаетесь, и опишите, что конкретно вы делаете.
А пока - вот вам список выполняемых задач, читайте, и определяйте, какой вы вид программиста.

UNIT GROUP 2231 COMPUTING PROFESSIONALS

COMPUTING PROFESSIONALS design and prepare software to meet specific requirements in all aspects of the computing
environment, and control and audit the operation of computing facilities within an organisation.

Skill Level:
The entry requirement for this unit group is a bachelor degree or higher qualification or at least 5 years relevant experience.
In some instances relevant experience is required in addition to the formal qualification.

Tasks Include:
- writing, testing and maintaining operations and end-use software
- analysing systems to determine whether all specific requirements within an organisation are met
- developing and improving data processing procedures
- designing and modifying operating environment software to link with other software and hardware
- maintaining data dictionaries and data management systems to ensure integrity and security of data
- conducting research into computers and computer-based systems
- developing techniques for the application of computing theory
- analysing computer operations and usage to assess the completeness, accuracy, validity and efficiency of systems

Occupations:
2231-11 Systems Manager
2231-13 Systems Designer
2231-15 Software Designer
2231-17 Applications and Analyst Programmer
2231-19 Systems Programmer
2231-21 Computer Systems Auditor
2231-79 Computing Professionals nec

2231-11 Systems Manager
Controls the operating effectiveness of information technology systems, and arranges system maintenance and enhancements to meet user requirements.
Skill Level:
The entry requirement for this occupation is a bachelor degree or higher qualification or at least 5 years relevant experience. In some instances relevant experience is required in addition to the formal qualification.
Tasks Include:
- consults with administrative and technical staff to determine information needs, data flows and system definitions
- establishes and controls system access and security
- coordinates protocols for operation within multi-user information technology networks providing voice, data and text transmission
- monitors and optimises system performance and initiates recoveries after system failures
- implements data back-up and other system housekeeping procedures
- manages the distribution and retention of data on storage devices
- coordinates system updates and replacement of old versions
- maintains data dictionaries and advises users on data structures and terminology
- assists in testing new equipment and systems
- prepares technical reports on the operation of systems
- estimates costs of systems and prepares cost-benefit analyses
- may coordinate the work of support staff
- may provide training in system use and access
Specialisations:
Database Administrator
Network Administrator

2231-13 Systems Designer
Conducts research into computer and communications systems, and develops techniques for their effective application and use.
Skill Level:
The entry requirement for this occupation is a bachelor degree or higher qualification or at least 5 years relevant experience. In some instances relevant experience is required in addition to the formal qualification.
Tasks Include:
- conducts research into user interaction with information technology systems and areas in which ease and efficiency of use could be enhanced
- reviews and develops computer architecture and design, computer languages, computational techniques, data communication processes, and user interface devices
- tests new information technology system designs and rectifies design problems found
- performs acceptance testing of new system components
- writes reports and papers describing findings for publication

2231-15 Software Designer
Designs and modifies the operating environment software which links computer software and hardware.
Skill Level:
The entry requirement for this occupation is a bachelor degree or higher qualification or at least 5 years relevant experience. In some instances relevant experience is required in addition to the formal qualification.
Tasks Include:
- consults with users to determine their requirements
- devises linkages between different types and levels of software and between software and hardware
- develops, tests, installs and modifies operating systems, compilers, utilities and other software
- tests the efficiency of new and improved software
- prepares documentation on software use and maintenance
Specialisations:
Database Designer

2231-17 Applications and Analyst Programmer
Writes, tests and maintains computer programs to meet the application needs of end-users of computer systems.
Skill Level:
The entry requirement for this occupation is a bachelor degree or higher qualification or at least 5 years relevant experience. In some instances relevant experience is required in addition to the formal qualification.
Tasks Include:
- assists systems designers in researching and documenting computer users’ requirements
- participates in writing specifications for computer systems and producing the components of computer programs.
- analyses objectives and problems specified by systems designers
- translates the formalised solutions provided by systems designers into detailed program specifications
- prepares detailed logical designs to establish the order in which data is processed, points at which decisions must be made and the sequence of operations
- writes programs as lists of instructions in computer languages or machine code, working from formalised representations of solutions
- tests the validity and logic of programs and makes amendments
- prepares reports, manuals and documentation on the status, operation and maintenance of system software for use by computer equipment suppliers, systems designers, programmers and computer operators
- may analyse, review and rewrite programs and component modules of programs

2231-19 Systems Programmer
Writes, maintains and updates programs which control the overall functioning of computers.
Skill Level:
The entry requirement for this occupation is a bachelor degree or higher qualification or at least 5 years relevant experience. In some instances relevant experience is required in addition to the formal qualification.
Tasks Include:
- develops specifications for enhancements in the operation of computer and telecommunications system software
- determines program design, and writes system programs in computer languages or machine code
- tests the validity and logic of system programs
- modifies, amends and updates software programs and database structures
- prepares documentation on the use of system software by other information technology personnel
- may contribute to the development of new software in a mainframe, personal computer or local area network environment
Specialisations:
Database Programmer (Systems)

2231-21 Computer Systems Auditor
Designs and monitors control systems which ensure the integrity and security of data and reviews the organisation’s computing environment and usage of computer facilities.
Skill Level:
The entry requirement for this occupation is a bachelor degree or higher qualification or at least 5 years relevant experience. In some instances relevant experience is required in addition to the formal qualification.
Tasks Include:
- analyses information processing systems to assess their completeness, accuracy, validity, and efficiency
- assesses whether business systems process authorised transactions completely, accurately, and in a timely manner
- reviews application systems and associated business procedures to ensure that they meet desired business objectives in a timely and efficient manner
- participates in the design of new systems to ensure that the resulting system is efficient, effective and well controlled
- reviews the computing environment of organisations to assess the operations, systems software, systems development and security procedures
- reviews the acquisition of software and hardware in terms of economy, efficiency and ability to meet operating requirements
- investigates the usage of computing facilities
- liaises with data processing management and systems users, and prepares reports recommending improvements in the management of computing facilities
Specialisations:
Information Technology Security Manager

2231-79 Computing Professionals nec
This occupation group covers Computing Professionals not elsewhere classified.
Skill Level:
The entry requirement for this occupation is a bachelor degree or higher qualification or at least 5 years relevant experience. In some instances relevant experience is required in addition to the formal qualification.
Occupations in this group include:
Computer Analyst
Computer Scientist
Computing Tester
Database Analyst
Local Area Network (LAN) Controller

[Mega]

Re: а программисты могут иммигрировать ?

Это значит что в дипломе написано "Программист", работаю программистом, а не аналитиком и не системным программистом.

Мне казалось что "программист" призвание, а не профессия... Можно выдать описание чего по вашему делают программисты, аналитики и системные программисты? Мне всегда было интересно: "А кто же я?!"

ЗЫ: вопрос не ради хохмы задан...

[Test]

Re: а программисты могут иммигрировать ?

Ау, программисты!
Поделитесь опытом! На какой код асесмент делать.

[AK]

Re: а программисты могут иммигрировать ?

Ау, программисты!
Поделитесь опытом! На какой код асесмент делать.

Я подовался на 2231-17 Applications and Analyst Programmer
Как, я думаю, и большинство на этом форуме, подававшихся как прграммисты.

[BARLOG]

Ау, программисты!
Поделитесь опытом! На какой код асесмент делать

ИМХО если ты прграммист и твой опыт в основном связан с РАЗРАБОТКОЙ кода, то подаваться надо как System Designer, Software Designer. А уж там ACS сама решит, основываясь на описанных тобой профессиональных обязанностях, к какой категории ты ближе подходишь.