300 vs 309

[dv28]

я правильно понимаю что лучше податься на 309 с учетом того что мы уже дефакто более года вместе ?
Вроде бы никаких ограничений не нашел в сравнении с 300

Кто нибудь по 309 подавался ?

[Стас]

я правильно понимаю что лучше податься на 309 с учетом того что мы уже дефакто более года вместе ?

Виза 300 легче подтверждается документально, 309 же требует, особенно де-факто, особенно вне Австралии.

[dv28]

Виза 300 легче подтверждается документально, 309 же требует, особенно де-факто, особенно вне Австралии.

А в чем сложность подтверждения ? я ничего особенного не нашел, у нас куча фото, банковский счет и свидетелей можем найти

А по срокам есть разница 300 и 309 ?

[dv28]

народ а как в на 300 визу вот это делать ?

evidence that you intend to marry your fiancé(e) within 9 months of being granted
the visa. Such evidence must be a signed and dated letter (on letterhead) from an
authorised marriage celebrant who will conduct your wedding ceremony. The letter
must include the place and date (or date range) on which the planned marriage
ceremony may take place. If you plan to marry in Australia, the celebrant must confirm
that a Notice of Intended Marriage (NOIM) for you and your fiancé(e) has been lodged
with them (see page 33 for further details about NOIMs);

Если оба пока еще в России

[Креветка]

А по срокам есть разница 300 и 309 ?

нет

[Sony]

Виза 300 легче подтверждается документально, 309 же требует, особенно де-факто, особенно вне Австралии.

что требует?

[Креветка]

что требует?

Migration Regulations 1994

Reg 2.03A Criteria applicable to de facto partners

the Minister must be satisfied that the applicant has been in the de facto relationship for at least the period of 12 months ending immediately before the date of the application.


Reg 1.09A De facto partner and de facto relationship
(2) If the Minister is considering an application for:
(a) a Partner (Migrant) (Class BC) visa; or
(b) a Partner (Provisional) (Class UF) visa; or
(c) a Partner (Residence) (Class BS) visa; or
(d) a Partner (Temporary) (Class UK) visa;
the Minister must consider all of the circumstances of the relationship, including the matters set out in subregulation (3).

(3) The matters for subregulation (2) are:
(a) the financial aspects of the relationship, including:
(i) any joint ownership of real estate or other major assets; and
(ii) any joint liabilities; and
(iii) the extent of any pooling of financial resources, especially in relation to major financial commitments; and
(iv) whether one person in the relationship owes any legal obligation in respect of the other; and
(v) the basis of any sharing of day-to-day household expenses; and
(b) the nature of the household, including:
(i) any joint responsibility for the care and support of children; and
(ii) the living arrangements of the persons; and
(iii) any sharing of the responsibility for housework; and
(c) the social aspects of the relationship, including:
(i) whether the persons represent themselves to other people as being in a de facto relationship with each other; and
(ii) the opinion of the persons’ friends and acquaintances about the nature of the relationship; and
(iii) any basis on which the persons plan and undertake joint social activities; and
(d) the nature of the persons’ commitment to each other, including:
(i) the duration of the relationship; and
(ii) the length of time during which the persons have lived together; and
(iii) the degree of companionship and emotional support that the persons draw from each other; and
(iv) whether the persons see the relationship as a long-term one.

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Migration Regulations 1994

Reg 2.03A Criteria applicable to de facto partners

the Minister must be satisfied that the applicant has been in the de facto relationship for at least the period of 12 months ending immediately before the date of the application.


Reg 1.09A De facto partner and de facto relationship
(2) If the Minister is considering an application for:
(a) a Partner (Migrant) (Class BC) visa; or
(b) a Partner (Provisional) (Class UF) visa; or
(c) a Partner (Residence) (Class BS) visa; or
(d) a Partner (Temporary) (Class UK) visa;
the Minister must consider all of the circumstances of the relationship, including the matters set out in subregulation (3).

(3) The matters for subregulation (2) are:
(a) the financial aspects of the relationship, including:
(i) any joint ownership of real estate or other major assets; and
(ii) any joint liabilities; and
(iii) the extent of any pooling of financial resources, especially in relation to major financial commitments; and
(iv) whether one person in the relationship owes any legal obligation in respect of the other; and
(v) the basis of any sharing of day-to-day household expenses; and
(b) the nature of the household, including:
(i) any joint responsibility for the care and support of children; and
(ii) the living arrangements of the persons; and
(iii) any sharing of the responsibility for housework; and
(c) the social aspects of the relationship, including:
(i) whether the persons represent themselves to other people as being in a de facto relationship with each other; and
(ii) the opinion of the persons’ friends and acquaintances about the nature of the relationship; and
(iii) any basis on which the persons plan and undertake joint social activities; and
(d) the nature of the persons’ commitment to each other, including:
(i) the duration of the relationship; and
(ii) the length of time during which the persons have lived together; and
(iii) the degree of companionship and emotional support that the persons draw from each other; and
(iv) whether the persons see the relationship as a long-term one.

А эти правила еще действуют ? Я не нашел ссылку из booklet 1 на этот документ

[Креветка]

А эти правила еще действуют ? Я не нашел ссылку из booklet 1 на этот документ

действуют... буклет построен на этих правилах
вот то же самое в буклете

To be eligible for a Partner visa on the basis of a de facto relationship at the time you apply, you and your partner must be aged 18 years or over and:
• have been in the relationship for at least the entire 12 months before the date you lodged your Partner visa application (exceptions apply)

When you apply for a Partner visa, you must provide evidence that supports your claims of a genuine and continuing relationship with your partner.

History of your relationship
You and your partner must each provide a statement regarding the history of your relationship, including:
• how, when and where you first met
• how your relationship developed
• when you decided to marry or commence a de facto partner relationship
• your domestic arrangements – how you support each other financially, physically and emotionally and when this level of commitment began
• any periods of separation – when and why the separation occurred, for how long and how you maintained your relationship during the period of separation; and
• your future plans

Evidence of your relationship
here are 4 broad categories of evidence that you need to provide:
• financial aspects
• the nature of the household;
• social context of the relationship; and
• the nature of your commitment to each other

Financial aspects
Evidence will be required that you and your partner share financial commitments and responsibilities, including:
• evidence of any joint ownership of real estate or other major assets (for example, cars, appliances) and any joint liabilities (for example, loans, insurance
• sharing of finances;
• legal commitments that you and your partner have undertaken as a couple
• evidence that you and your partner have operated joint bank accounts for a reasonable period of time; or
• sharing of household bills and expenses

The nature of the household
You will be asked to provide evidence that you and your partner share responsibilities within your household, including:
• your living arrangements;
• a statement outlining the basis on which responsibility for housework is distributed;
• joint ownership or joint rental of the residence in which you live
• joint utilities accounts (electricity, gas, telephone);
joint responsibility for bills for day-to-day living expenses
• joint responsibility for children; or
• correspondence addressed to both you and your partner at the same address

Social context of the relationship
How your relationship with your partner is seen by your friends and family will be considered including:
• evidence that you and your partner are generally accepted as a couple socially (for example, joint invitations, going out together, friends and acquaintances in common);
• the assessment of your friends and acquaintances about the nature of your relationship (see ‘Statutory declarations’ on page 27);
• evidence that you and your partner have declared your relationship to government bodies, commercial/public institutions or authorities;
• statutory declarations made by your or your partner’s parents, family members, relatives and other friends
• joint membership of organisations or groups
• evidence of joint participation in sporting, cultural or social activities; or
• joint travel

The nature of your commitment to each other
Factors that could assist in evidencing mutual commitment between you and your partner include:
• knowledge of each other’s personal circumstances (for example, background and family situation, which could be established at interview);
• intention that your relationship will be long-term (for example, the extent to which you have combined your affairs);
• the terms of your wills; or
• correspondence and itemised phone accounts to show that contact was maintained during any period of separation

[zzz]

Если подашься по 309/100, то отсчёт двух лет до перманента (100-я виза) пойдёт с момента подачи на 309. А если поедешь жениться, то только после свадьбы сможешь подать на 820/801, и отсчёт двух лет до постоянной 801 пойдёт от момента подачи на временную 820.

Кроме того, если вы живёте вместе, и не в Ау, то какой смысл подавать как невесто, срочно по получении 300-й ехать в Ау и расписываться, сидеть и ждать там 820-ю и т.д. (причём до подачи на 820-ю ты без Медикера), если можно сразу подать на 309 (де-факто), продолжать жить как раньше, и заехать в Ау только по получении 309 визы в предоставленный срок, на полных правах?

[Sabrina777]

Ребята, дайте пожалуйста ссылочки на 300 и 309 визы,думаю эта инфа будет актуальна...
Мы вот тоже в раздумьях. Мой милый утверждает что 309 лучше, а я пока еще склоняюсь к 300... Как быть? В 309 тоже надо спонсорство подтверждать?
И еще, кто как относится к Prenuptial Agreementам? Может кто то заключал подобные договоры... каковы подводные камни?
Заранее спасибо!

[L-A]

Женихи и невесты, если можете подаваться на де факто или пожениться , если уверены в избраннике конечно, подавайтесь сразу на 309, че тут думать.

ето лучше как не крути. и прежде всего для вас, аппликантов. n

[dv28]

какой смысл подавать как невесто, срочно по получении 300-й ехать в Ау и расписываться, сидеть и ждать там 820-ю и т.д. (причём до подачи на 820-ю ты без Медикера), если можно сразу подать на 309 (де-факто),

Полностью согласен , но как быть вот с этим

statutory declarations from 2 people who are Australian citizens or Australian
permanent residents and who support your claim that the relationship is genuine and
continuing (see page 27 for information on statutory declarations);


находясь в РФ

[zzz]

Полностью согласен , но как быть вот с этим

statutory declarations from 2 people who are Australian citizens or Australian
permanent residents and who support your claim that the relationship is genuine and
continuing (see page 27 for information on statutory declarations);


находясь в РФ

Ещё раз буклет перечитай, там очень чётко объяснено что делать когда эти документы достать не представляется возможным. Вот прямо со страницы 27 и начни. Я там нашёл ответ за 15 секунд. Детский сад какой-то, если просто прочесть и понять прочитанное это проблема, как вы доки-то готовить будете?

[dv28]

Ещё раз буклет перечитай, там очень чётко объяснено что делать когда эти документы достать не представляется возможным. Вот прямо со страницы 27 и начни. Я там нашёл ответ за 15 секунд. Детский сад какой-то, если просто прочесть и понять прочитанное это проблема, как вы доки-то готовить будете?

у тебя или проблема с общением или комплекс что ты самый умный

вопрос был не про дослать, но не важно