Заезд на bus lane для поворота налево

[ova]

Такая ситуация. Есть многополосная дорога, левая полоса - bus lane. Обычно если нужно повернуть налево на дороге есть разметка где можно перестроиться в бас лейн и потом повернуть налево. Но вот есть одно место где такой разметки нет - т.е. идет себе бас лейн, потом перекресток, на котором нет запрещения поворота налево. Естественно поворачивать налево со второй полосы не кошерно. Так вот вопрос - позволено ли мне перестроиться в бас лейн перед поворотом налеко и как далеко перед перекрестком?

[Odessa]

первая ссылка из Гугла
Using bus lanes

[ova]

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Using bus lanes

Спасибо большое, я че то искал в основных правилах, не подумал что может быть дополнительный документ по этому вопросу. Нагуглил то же самое про QLD.

[Odessa]

теперь вопрос - красная полоса - как понять она "bus lane" или "bus lane only" ?

[Odessa]

я так понял, что если не видел знака "bus only" то наверно лучше считать что таки "bus only"

[Peter]

я так понял, что если не видел знака "bus only" то наверно лучше считать что таки "bus only"

+1

[S.G.]

читать правила

[Eldar]

Такая ситуация. Есть многополосная дорога, левая полоса - bus lane. Обычно если нужно повернуть налево на дороге есть разметка где можно перестроиться в бас лейн и потом повернуть налево. Но вот есть одно место где такой разметки нет - т.е. идет себе бас лейн, потом перекресток, на котором нет запрещения поворота налево. Естественно поворачивать налево со второй полосы не кошерно. Так вот вопрос - позволено ли мне перестроиться в бас лейн перед поворотом налеко и как далеко перед перекрестком?

Было бы название дорог, ответ был бы более конкретным (по перекрёстку).


Вопрос хороший.
В целом правила обозначивают использование бас лайн не более ста метров для перестроения или опережения/объезда других транспортных средств.
Внимательно правила не читал, но предполагаю что при съезде в "карман" для левого поворота, блокировать бас лайн запрещено. (если видно что в кармане стоят другие машины и самому "убратся" с бас лайн быстро не получится.
То есть, следует оставатся в своей полосе в ожидании освобождения "кармана".

[S.G.]

теперь вопрос - красная полоса - как понять она "bus lane" или "bus lane only" ?

bus lane

[Eldar]

bus lane

Это %%%%ец какой правильный ответ.
Десять баллов .. по шкале рихтера.

[S.G.]

Это %%%%ец какой правильный ответ.
Десять баллов .. по шкале рихтера.

ты можешь сказать свой по шкале рихтера в 1 балл

[wayseeker]

Это %%%%ец какой правильный ответ.
Десять баллов .. по шкале рихтера.

Ответ правильный - если не обозначено как bus only, это не bus only.

Про поворот со второй полосы налево сквозь bus lane (не bus only) - убивал-бы. Стабильно вижу аварии на Еpping Road, когда машина сворачивает через Bus Lane налево и бьет то такси, то мотоциклы.

[S.G.]

Эльдар кипишует просто,..... неужели трудно взять регулешн и посмотреть что там расписанно?

ROAD RULES 2008 - REG 154

Bus lanes
154 Bus lanes

(1) A driver (except the driver of a public bus) must not drive in a bus lane, unless the driver is permitted to drive in the bus lane under rule 158.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note: "Public bus" is defined in the Dictionary.
Note: Rule 158 provides additional exceptions applying to this rule, and also provides a defence to the prosecution of a driver for an offence against this rule.
(2) A "bus lane" is a marked lane, or the part of a marked lane:
(a) beginning at a bus lane sign (whether or not there is also a bus lane road marking) and ending at the nearest of the following:
(i) an end bus lane sign,
(ii) a traffic sign that indicates the beginning of another special purpose lane, or
(b) beginning at a bus lane road marking (if there is no bus lane sign) and ending at the next intersection.
Note: "Intersection", "marked lane", "special purpose lane" and "traffic sign" are defined in the Dictionary.
(3) In this rule:
"bus lane road marking" means a road marking consisting of:
(a) the letters “BL”, or
(b) the words “bus lane”, or
(c) the words “bus only” or “buses only”.
Note: "Road marking" is defined in the Dictionary.
Note:
Bus lane signs

End bus lane signs

Note: There are a number of other permitted versions of bus lane signs -see the diagrams in Schedule 3.

[S.G.]

ROAD RULES 2008 - REG 187

Stopping in a bicycle lane, bus lane, tram lane, tramway, transit lane, truck lane or on tram tracks
187 Stopping in a bicycle lane, bus lane, tram lane, tramway, transit lane, truck lane or on tram tracks

(1) A driver must not stop in a bus lane, transit lane or truck lane unless the driver:
(a) is driving a public bus, public minibus or taxi, and is dropping off or picking up, passengers, and
(b) is permitted to drive in the lane under these Rules or another law of this jurisdiction.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
(2) A driver must not stop in a bicycle lane unless:
(a) the driver:
(i) is driving a public bus, public minibus or taxi, and is dropping off or picking up, passengers, and
(ii) is permitted to drive in the lane under these Rules or another law of this jurisdiction, or
(b) the driver is permitted to stop or park in the bicycle lane under another law of this jurisdiction.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
(3) A driver (except the driver of a tram, a tram recovery vehicle or a public bus) must not stop in a tram lane, a tramway or on tram tracks.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note: "Bicycle lane" is defined in rule 153, "bus lane" is defined in rule 154, "tram lane" is defined in rule 155, "tramway" is defined in rule 155A, "transit lane" is defined in rule 156, "truck lane" is defined in rule 157, and "public bus", "taxi", "tram" and "tram tracks" are defined in the Dictionary.
Note: The term "public minibus" is not a term that is used in this jurisdiction. The reference to that term in this rule is retained in order to preserve uniformity with the Australian Road Rules .
Note: Rule 76 deals with drivers keeping clear of trams travelling in tram lanes or on tram tracks marked on each side by a yellow line.
Note: Part 11, Division 6 deals with driving in bicycle lanes, bus lanes, tram lanes, tramways, transit lanes and truck lanes.

[S.G.]

ROAD RULES 2008 - REG 158

Exceptions to driving in special purpose lanes etc
158 Exceptions to driving in special purpose lanes etc

(1) The driver of any vehicle may drive for up to the permitted distance in a bicycle lane, bus lane, tram lane, transit lane or truck lane if it is necessary for the driver to drive in the lane:
(a) to enter or leave the road, or
(b) to enter a part of the road of one kind from a part of the road of another kind (for example, moving to or from a service road, the shoulder of the road or an emergency stopping lane), or
(c) to overtake a vehicle that is turning right, or making a U-turn from the centre of the road, and is giving a right change of direction signal, or
(d) to enter a marked lane, or part of the road where there is room for a line of traffic (other than motor bikes, bicycles, motorised wheelchairs or animals), from the side of the road.
Note: "Permitted distance" is defined in subrule (4).
Note: "Bicycle lane" is defined in rule 153, "bus lane" is defined in rule 154, "emergency stopping lane" is defined in rule 95, "centre of the road", "marked lane", "overtake", "right change of direction signal", "service road" and "U-turn" are defined in the Dictionary, "shoulder" is defined in rule 12, "tram lane" is defined in rule 155, "transit lane" is defined in rule 156, and "truck lane" is defined in rule 157.
Note: A driver must keep clear of a tram travelling in a tram lane-see rule 76.
(1-1) Subrule (1) does not apply to a driver in a bus only lane.
Note: This subrule is an additional NSW subrule. There is no corresponding subrule in rule 158 of the Australian Road Rules .
(2) The driver of any vehicle may drive in a bicycle lane, bus lane, tram lane, transit lane or truck lane if:
(a) it is necessary for the driver to drive in the lane to avoid an obstruction, or
(b) information on or with a traffic sign applying to the lane indicates that the driver may drive in the lane, or
(c) the driver is:
(i) riding a bicycle in a bus lane (other than a bus only lane), tram lane, transit lane or truck lane, or
(ii) driving a taxi or motor bike in a bus lane (other than a bus only lane), or
(iii) driving a special purpose vehicle in a bus lane, tram lane, transit lane or truck lane, or
(iv) driving an NRMA Road Patrol vehicle in a transit lane while on duty with the NRMA Road Patrol service and is responding to an urgent or priority call, or
(v) driving a police vehicle, ambulance or fire brigade vehicle in a transit lane or bus lane (other than a bus only lane) while returning to base after proceeding to the scene of an accident or other emergency, or
(vi) driving a vehicle in a bus lane (other than a bus only lane), tram lane, transit lane or truck lane where vehicle is being operated by or at the direction of the Authority for the purpose of conducting road and traffic surveys.
Note: "Obstruction", "traffic sign" and "with" are defined in the Dictionary, and "Authority" is defined in the Act.
Note: Subrule (2) (c) is not uniform with the corresponding paragraph in rule 158 of the Australian Road Rules . However, the corresponding paragraph in the Australian Road Rules allows another law of this jurisdiction to permit a driver to drive in special purpose lanes. Different rules may apply in other Australian jurisdictions.
(3) It is a defence to the prosecution of a driver for an offence against a provision of this Division for driving in a bicycle lane, bus lane, tram lane, transit lane or truck lane if:
(a) it is necessary for the driver to drive in the lane to stop at a place in the lane, and
(b) the driver is permitted to stop at that place under these Rules or another law of this jurisdiction, or it is a defence under rule 165 for the driver to stop at that place, and
(c) if the lane is a bicycle lane-the driver drives in the lane for no more than the permitted distance.
Note: Rule 165 provides a defence to the prosecution of a driver for an offence against a provision of Part 12 (Restrictions on stopping and parking). The defence is available, for example, if the driver needs to stop to deal with a medical or other emergency.
(4) In this rule:
"bus only lane" means:
(a) a bus lane beginning at a bus lane sign where the words “bus only” or “buses only” appear on or with the sign, or
(b) a bus lane beginning at a bus lane road marking where the road marking consists of the words “bus only” or “buses only”.
Note: "Bus lane" and "bus lane road marking" are defined in rule 154.
Note: There is no corresponding definition for this term for the purposes of rule 158 of the Australian Road Rules . The definition is required for the purposes of subrule (2) (c).
"permitted distance" means:
(a) for a bicycle lane-50 metres, or
(b) for any other lane-100 metres.
"special purpose vehicle" means a motor vehicle (whether a tow truck, a vehicle used for repairing traffic control light signals or another vehicle) being operated by or at the direction of the Authority and proceeding to the scene of an accident or other emergency.
Note: "Authority" is defined in the Act.
Note: There is no corresponding definition for this term for the purposes of rule 158 of the Australian Road Rules . The definition is required for the purposes of subrule (2) (c).