говорим и обсуждаем на английском

[masha]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

I'm not discouraged - ain't a big deal, just a matter of theory studying....

well, actually..... it's a matter of practice
nobody cares how many grammar books you have read if you are afraid of saying a word in English

[Abor Mot]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

I'm not discouraged - ain't a big deal, just a matter of theory studying....

well, actually..... it's a matter of practice
nobody cares how many grammar books you have read if you are afraid of saying a word in English

You right, in my case is everything is upside down
I have enough practice. I need theory. As I posted earlier, I think english, I mean trained mind to switch stream of russian minds to english and back.

[Змий]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

...I have enough practice...

Did you learn English at school or university?

[Abor Mot]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

...I have enough practice...

Did you learn English at school or university?

As says in Odessa with direct translation "Don't make me funny". I have a technical education. Graduated in technical university. my practice experience are not bound with any educational establishment... only practical training - no books, no manuals, no theoretical training...

[masha]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

You are right, in my case __ everything is upside down
I have enough practice. I need theory. As I posted earlier, I think in english, I mean trained mind to switch stream of russian minds to english and back.

what do you mean by switching the stream of minds, btw?

[Abor Mot]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

You are right, in my case __ everything is upside down
I have enough practice. I need theory. As I posted earlier, I think in english, I mean trained mind to switch stream of russian minds to english and back.

what do you mean by switching the stream of minds, btw?

It's easy, just starting to think english, speaking inner yourself english...
switching between russian and english mind... Is it hard to understand? Well, tell me how do you speak to the natives. What do you do before say something english?

[masha]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

...I have enough practice...

Did you learn English at school or university?

As they say in Odessa (the direct translation) "Don't make me funny". I have a technical education. Graduated from the technical university. my practice experience is not bound to any educational establishment (institution)... only practical training - no books, no manuals, no theoretical training...

hmmm - practical training? - do you have bunches of natives at the Angara, left riverside?

[masha]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

It's easy, just starting to think english, speaking inner yourself english...
switching between russian and english mind... Is it hard to understand? Well, tell me how do you speak to the natives. What do you do before say something english?

you have one mind and it's not English or Russian, it's a humanlike

sometimes before i start speaking i try to think over what it's gonne to be about (guess it's a good habit) but i think not in Russian or in English - i just think in ideas!

[Abor Mot]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

...I have enough practice...

Did you learn English at school or university?

As they say in Odessa (the direct translation) "Don't make me funny". I have a technical education. Graduated from the technical university. my practice experience is not bound to any educational establishment (institution)... only practical training - no books, no manuals, no theoretical training...

hmmm - practical training? - do you have bunches of natives at the Angara, left riverside?

It was long ago... the book, in other topic, I told about - is a gift of one american friend. About 10 or 11 (don't remember exactly) years ago, I was his enterpreter.... As I think, not perfect...

[Abor Mot]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

It's easy, just starting to think english, speaking inner yourself english...
switching between russian and english mind... Is it hard to understand? Well, tell me how do you speak to the natives. What do you do before say something english?

you have one mind and it's not English or Russian, it's a humanlike

sometimes before i start speaking i try to think over what it's gonne to be about (guess it's a good habit) but i think not in Russian or in English - i just think in ideas!

I'm not gonna argue to u - just say what I think about. You have inner voice. In which language it speaks to you?

[masha]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

I'm not gonna argue to u - just say what I think about. You have inner voice. In which language it speaks to you?

hmm, the voice, and it speaks to you? any vision?

no point in arguing - you are just so accustomed to Russian that you omit the main part ('ideas') and go directly to translation (ideas into words) and that's the main problem 'cause words are different in different languages

[Abor Mot]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

I'm not gonna argue to u - just say what I think about. You have inner voice. In which language it speaks to you?

hmm, the voice, and it speaks to you? any vision?

no point in arguing - you are just so accustomed to Russian that you omit the main part ('ideas') and go directly to translation (ideas into words) and that's the main problem 'cause words are different in different languages

No visions, as you mean I'm fine
Anyway, on present condition I feel myself like the unemployed homeless men looking for food in junk bin somewhere in bronx: i'm almost positive about speaking and listening parts of test. But our conversation hardened me in my doubts: I can't write right enough to pass writing test...

[Змий]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

...I can't write right enough to pass writing test...

Don't worry, we all make lot of mistakes. As my teacher told me it was not big mistake and it wouldn't matter in exam.
Good luck

[Abor Mot]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

...I can't write right enough to pass writing test...

Don't worry, we all make lot of mistakes. As my teacher told me it was not big mistake and it wouldn't matter in exam.
Good luck

Thanks for encouraging, I have to learn to much for the month....

[masha]

Re: God bless you, Fil.

...I can't write right enough to pass writing test...

Don't worry, we all make lot of mistakes. As my teacher told me it was not big mistake and it wouldn't matter in exam.
Good luck

which one? and what will matter?